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I've been in that position you sit there sulking and eventually allowed back into the community. not you, howard, what did you do? >> i had a row of windows in my room and, you know, i opened a window open. we had a greenhouse so i had to be careful climbing out because i didn't want to go through the glass. i got down and we had a charge account at the local hardware store and i went there and convinced the guy to let me charge a hash block and a tool. i got everything i needed. i crawled back in and i locked her out. [ laughter ] >> you changed the lock on your bedroom door so she couldn't g...

Charge a hash block and a tool. i got everything i needed. i crawled back in and i locked her out. [ laughter ] >> you changed the lock on your bedroom door so she couldn't get back in. >> i put a hasp lock. >> he was the mhanabil lector. >> how did your mother react? >> she probably got a kick out of it. she was a little irritated when she couldn't get back in. >> what do you make of a son with such devil lish mastermind capabilities? >> it was a worry for awhile. as i mentioned in the book, we had howy, who was the second child quite soon after the first child but after we had him we decided...