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Arrests are what he could owe up to white supremacy. that's what the fbi is focusing on right. there's a piece in "the new york times" from the fbi special agent who is in charge of investigating 9/11 and he said it's time to call this what it is and designate it as terrorism so that the fbi can treat it that way. he says, 20 years ago we grossly underestimated the rising threat of islamist terrorism and that cost us dearly on september 11th. we can't afford to wait for the white supremacist equivalent. he cites mi-5 and do you think that changes what we saw over the weekend? >> it's possible ...

Campaign. he cares about christopher steele, bruce ohr, and all these, you know, wacka-doodle conspiracy theories that would somehow protect donald trump. as a guy who were first about steele and the dossier, i can -- i'd love to sit down with devin and tell him that you're completely wrong, you're out to lunch, stop wasting your time and do what needs to be done, which is to protect our elections from further russian intervention when we have evidence that it's still continuing. it's just gotten to be absurd. >> david, you met with christopher steele. what would you tell devin nunes about him...

Agent. jury selection in that case is scheduled to begin on september 17th, but today the judge delayed the beginning of the trial for one week later. the trial will now start on september 24th. during paul manafort's trial in virginia devin nunes used taxpayer money for his own trip to london where he tried to investigate the origins of the christopher steele dossier that describes donald trump's history with russian businesses and russian businesspeople. and in an exclusive report in "the atlantic" our next guest natasha bertrand reports that nunes requested meetings with the heads of three ...

Trip told me that officials at mi-6, mi-5, and gchq were wary of entertaining nunes out of fear that he was trying to stir up a controversy. natasha bertrand, staff writer at "the atlantic," joins us now. also with us david corn, washington bureau chief for "mother jones" and co-author of the book "russian roulette." both are msnbc contributors. and natasha, i want to go to your exclusive reporting on what devin nunes was up to on his summer break. and big surprise, people in london were a little suspicious of him. >> exactly. so he went over there with the intention of trying to get more info...

Which is to protect our elections from further russian intervention when we have evidence that it's still continuing. it's just gotten to be absurd. >> david, you met with christopher steele. what would you tell devin nunes about him if he wanted to talk to you about him? >> i'm sure what the mi-6 and mi-5 guys would say if they thought it was worth speaking to devin nunes, would say. he is a respected professional. he's worked 20 years with british intel and then he worked with the fbi and other u.s. agencies on sort of a contractor basis. so people who have worked with him speak tremendously...