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Million people. they have looked at this congress that has been unable to do these things and ask themselves, why are we in this situation? why is health care threatened like this? it is conservatives that have had a full attempt to not -- they can't get through congress so they are returning to the courts. >> the other thing is look you could pass a four-word amendment that said established by the states or the federal government or the federal government, four words, right, if it is found in the plaintiff's favor. >> that ain't happening. >> that's the question. why not just do that. >> that...

Don't think we will get there. i think the court has laid down the predicate to uphold this law. i think they are going to find as they go through their analysis of the intent of congress, the pure language the plaj plain language of the law, et cetera i think it will weight more in favor of the defendant here. >> i think -- i have to agree. i think many supreme court justices and many conservatives have recognized they will do pro found harm to their party if the supreme court guts this law because there are actual victims, millions of victims. that's why i think you find the republican gover...

To do this preliminary hearing and could elevate the charges actually to a homicide charge by putting a second degree, it's called implied malice murder charge. bill: why would they do that? >> where's the malice? >> he had no business giving propofol, used for major surgery, to put someone under, and giving that to michael jackson. that is not accepted in any medical standard whatsoever. >> but a homicide? doctors over-- i think doctors overprescribe medication all across america but i don't think that means they should be on trial for their life. michael chose to inject all those drugs, and ...

-- cops in every emergency room and if the doctors fail to resuscitate them, we're going to arrest him for failing to ability. in -- if you don't save a life, they go to jail? he administered cpr, he was working on jackson, he called 911. it's my understanding that dr. murray did the best he could to save michael. now, michael a -- >> bill: but does this suggest that he did not do enough to save his life? and had he in order tried -- hidden evidence mike at jackson might have had a better chance of getting through this thing. >> he called 911, gave him mouth to mouth. i don't know what else a ...

To prove that he killed michael -- >> bill: i hear your point here. i'll trying to figure out on how courts rule on eyewitness testimony. >> it's up to the jury, are they going to like alvarez or say he's trying to save his back end by telling the prosecution the story they want to here and what's more likely to be true, the account you give at the time or the account you give after two months once you've been in the hands of the prosecution? that's going to be the credibility issue. bill: is it the witness news or can you say we've got the evidence on the doctor already? >> i think they're bo...