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They're democrats or they support me or they'll make due. i think none of that is actually true. i think these are you know, these are people who want to support their families. and i think this focused the democrats as well as focusing the president when people start realizing that these people are out of work, they're servi thei out of work an efb at that point starts getting blameded and you know, paul has live d through this. it becomes kind of a pox on all your houses. maybe they'll do a deal on dreamers and figure out a way out of this. >> michael, the argument you make is powerful. the ...

Build billion build. >> i think this president is reeling because he's not winning the narrative here and he's just trying to change it. he's trying to create a crisis. where i believe one does not exist. and if you look at the poll, you have 62% oppose the building of the wall. you have a majority of the people who say they blame the republicans and the president more than the democrats for shutdown. so what the president is trying to do with the speech tomorrow night the reset and say look, this is a crisis here. and here is why and that's why he's going for the photo op at the border at wel...