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Person. we don't have the mental ability to control our lives. so if our life has to be controlled by a male in our family. >> sean: michael, this is what we hear. women in saudi arabia have to deal with the morality police. they can't be seen in public with men they are not related to. women can't drive. we see that women under sharia are stoned to death. women that are raped, must have four male eyewitnesses. this is sharia law as it is applied to reality in countries around the world. this imam wants america to be sharia compliant. what is he saying when he says that? >> well, first of all ...

Don't want lit there. we don't want it here. abdul-rauf does. for that reno matter where he would build this mosque it would be a horrific problem. >> sean: michael, andy mccarthy has a piece out today. he says nonmuslims are barred from entering the cities of mecca and medina. not just barred from building synagogues and churches, they are barred period, because they are infidel feet are deemed unfit to touch the ground. he said -- he quotes the qur'an. in which he quotes as saying the pagans are unclean so let them not approach the sacred mosque. the big argument in america today, people tha...

Politically of blagojevich. understand the concept of justice enshrined in qur'an but if fitzgerald strikes out, for day-to-day living. there comes a point if you sharia is about justice but don't get a conviction, you its misapplication is the problem. cannot hold someone hostage. it is men ruling the societies where -- their live hostage. >> sean: michael, hang on a >> right. >> they can't spend their life second. where is it misapplied? accumulating set for saudi arabia, iran, tell me attorneys. i say drop it and move on. where applied properly in your >> a agree with you. view and where no...

Going to do. take a closer look at the laws and examine what should be concerned about if he gets his way. joining me now to help do this is frank gaffney from the center for security policy. michael gouse from the world muslim congress. . guys welcome to the show. wafa, you know best. you lived under sharia law for how many years? tell us your experience. >> thank you sean it is great to be on your show. of course, i was born and raised as a muslim. i spent 32 years of my life living under islamic sharia. so i know what it means to be a woman living under islamic sharia. >> sean: what is it l...

Sharia is about justice but its misapplication is the problem. it is men ruling the societies where -- >> sean: michael, hang on a second. where is it misapplied? saudi arabia, iran, tell me where applied properly in your view and where not applied properly? >> well, in general in india, indonesia, malaysia. there are a few bad radical elements that that are misrepresenting sharia and qur'an. we don't need that sharia that deals with the public that is individual to individual. our system, american muslims, subscribe to our constitution and our laws. >> sean: that's not what he's saying. frank...