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>> michael grunwald writes in plit kol, a review of his records shows the obama era has produced much more sweeping change than most of his supporter or detractors realize. joining us now is the author of that piece, michael greenwald, and also with us former democratic party chairman and vermont governor howard dean. michael, make your case, and one of t what have the supporters not realizing that president obama accomplished? >> it's funny. people remember the 2008 campaign, all the excitement, change we can believe in. for a lot of people there's a sense of disappointment either from conser...

Your discretionary income in payments and you can get loan forgiveness after 20 years. so that's going to over time really eat away at the problem. so i do think there's been all these changes. certainly if you're gay you can serve openly in the military. you don't have hidden fees in your credit card. your health care system is now digitalized instead of pen and paper. these are really big changes. not everybody has to like the changes, but it's change. >> well, one that you didn't talk about was the environment. i think he's going to be a huge figure in the environment. having gotten china t...

Care reform. so i don't want to knock his accomplishments because i think they're extraordinary. but the goals were even bigger than the accomplishments. and i think that's part of the problem. >> what about that, michael? the president's rhetoric was always a very broadly optimistic including descriptions of how, for example, the affordable care act would work and other things. and there's that accusation that, well, he oversold some of his ideas. >> well, i think the affordable care act is a pretty big deal. i think, you know, that before when -- if you had a pre-existing condition you could...

Is saying? >> absolutely not. the stimulus was actually this untold success. pretty much everything that america knows about it is wrong. the first quarter after the stimulus passed was the biggest improvement in jobs in 30 years. >> the first quarter was what? >> it was the biggest improvement in jobs in 30 years. >> wow. in 30 years? >> we lost 800,000 jobs in january 2009 before obama took over. right afterwards you had it this incredible improvement. still bad, but amazing improvement. meanwhile, the rest of the stimulus was really the purest distillation what obama meant by change. clean ...

Widen from here on out. >> we're going to talk about that later in the show. congresswoman and crystal ball, thanks for your time tonight. catch crystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. coming up, we're learning more about the extreme republican platform. just what is the gop planning to do to this country? and paul ryan keeps blaming president obama for being partisan. well, tonight, the reporter with the inside story on the blocking is with us. sorry, guys. no hiding now. and the king speaks. the secret long-lass tapes of dr. martin luther king jr. found in a...