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Investigation. and then for him to make that kind of threat. it's ironic, don, isn't it? because "the wall street journal" did the president a great service on monday night on making a very powerful argument to him. >> about transparence it is. he needs to be transparent. >> yeah. >> and i think in the first paragraph they said that he was doing exactly what he criticized the clintons for doing. >> exactly. and they made a call for him to be preemptively disclosing all the information that he could. >> yeah. >> that it's not too late to get out in front of this investigation. and, you know, th...

Out in front of this investigation and that would logically include him, for example, releasing his tax returns at this point. and they got trump's response tonight, which was unfortunate. he basically said to the new york times in answer to a question from the new york times that i'm drawing a red line here. >> i want to bring michael in. because we have this warning from the president though he would not say what he would do about it. but this comes as we're getting more details about the don jr. meeting, other russia connections and you said early on investigators will follow the money. >> ...

Caught in the middle of a russian moneylaundering inquiry of its own. so there is no question but we've crossed the red line that president trump has drawn today. and so the question then becomes when he realizes that, that we've gone beyond that is he gl going to do? and own thing he can do is direct rosenstein to fire mueller. i think rosenstein will quit before he does that and i think the associate general will quit before he does that. and then he has to change the regulations that allow only them to fire them so that he can fire them. it's a gigantic mess that he is in. and i don't think...

This is a gigantic meshe's in and i just -- i don't think he realizes the thickness of the soup he's in. maybe when ty cobb gets there, he'll be able to set him straight but right now he's wandering in the desert. >> these were michael's words. he said he thinks we're in the middle of a money laundering investigation. that's what you said. >> that's what i said. >> and the new york times reporting paul manafort was in debt by as much as $27 million to prorussias before he joined trump's campaign. money that appears to have been owed by shell companies connected in ukrain in the tax haven of cy...

Sanctions. >> these sanctions are no teeth. let me bring michael in. >> absolutely what needs to happen here, first of all, it's one thing for obama to say these intelligence agencies are on board with the assessment, but is he refusing to brief the house intelligence committee that's been asking for the evidence because they haven't been given it. i'm suspicious of russia is we need for congress to assert its oversight and call out the president no more announcements without the intelligence to back it up and when it comes to rex tillerson if congress wants the sanctions in place, they got to...