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For victory, what does that say to you about who he is >> it says everything about roger stone. i think he loved this moment, he loves being in the spotlight even if he's being indicted. and i have a different view of the long-term play here for stone. the classic play was to take credit in the end, i think he will be prosecuted and put in prison for crimes of not telling the truth and witness tampering, perhaps, but maybe nothing to the primary crime of collusion but i think roger stone thinks put me in prison, i'll either get pardoned or i'll be the g. gourd yn liddy of this administration >...

They've been after him for two years. >> michael, hi clearly you and roger are close so i'm not going to ask you anything about that. but you have a great vantage point of the campaign. i remember when you came out of your day talking to robert mueller. do you honestly believe that no one told donald trump about this famous trump tower meeting that involved jared kushner and donald jr. and paul manafort either the day of the meeting, the day before or the day after? i'm curious what you're -- you're not a participant in that meeting. i'm curious what your thinking is >> i appreciate the questi...

They're engaged with countries around the world and they register to lobby because it's lucrative kind of career move. so democrats and republicans along the way. but also, at the same time, i spent seven years there. i probably have more contact with russians than all the people in trump tower combined because i lived there. my daughter is russian, my ex-wife is russian today i'm married to a ukrainian woman. my mother-in-law is in the house visiting us and we speak russian in our home. the fact of the matter is, where i sit here in miami beach, there are 300,000 russian immigrants here outsi...