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Charges brought against him. i think that's likely. those are likely to be the next big shoes to drop, and i would be waiting for that. and by the way, the amazing, astounding development somewhere down the road is that robert mueller is probably going to want to talk to donald trump. and we are not there yet. he's going to start talking to senior white house staffers. at some opponent there is going to be that amazing, dramaticic meeting between mueller and trump, one assumes, but that may still be months away. >> ken starr said on this broadcast he predicted donald trump would be placed unde...

That some of trump's closest current and former associates will very soon be questioned, apparently, by special counsel mueller. joining us tonight, jimmy ga ra lay. he's known robert muscle for two decades or so. he's currently a professor of law at notre dame. also continuing with us is michael krouly of politico. jimmy, what first attracted us to you was a quote you gave "the new york times" in a piece about mueller. quote, they seem to be pursuing this more aggressively, taking a much harder line than you'd expect to see in a typical white-collar case. this is more consistent with how you'...

Each other. now you have this third element of this insurgency coming from the outside and folks like now congressman -- not congressman, but the gop nominee for congress, moor. i think it's just a strong struggle that we don't know who is going to come out ahead and we don't know what the toll will be on the party itself one this battle is over. >> michael, as we noted, the president made tax reform his message of the day. flew to indiana to do it and flew back. apparently after the tax reform speech he granted an interview to fox news to air tomorrow morning. they played a snippet of it toni...

Times" based on everything we've learned since? >> no, not at all. in fact, i would reemphasize that statement. the mueller investigation is being very aggressive. it's very broad in scope. special counsel mueller is focusing on a number of possible federal violations, obstruction of justice, computer hacking, a violation of the computer fraud and abuse act, a violation of the federal election campaign act, a violation of the foreign agent registration act, violations of the irs laws and possibly even money laundering. so it's a very broad investigation, but it's starting to come into focus. >...

Congress should come together finally to deliver this giant win for the american people and begin middle class miracle. it's called a middle class miracle once again. it's also called a miracle for our great companies, a miracle for the middle class, for the working person. >> let's bring in our lead off panel. michael krouly, kimberly atkins, and here in new york long-tief conservative radio talk show host charlie sikes is back with us. his new book how the right lost its mind is out next tuesday, october 3rd. charlie, we will begin with you. alabama primary, healthcare