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Forget the legal argument. what does it in the supreme court by saying the ban is a ban even though they're arguing that it's not a ban. politicizing a moment of a terror attack has never been done by a president of the united states. >> michael, i want to get to the second part of this and it's what theresa may said and something that we touched on. there is too much tolerance of the extremism in the uk and then she put it on silicon valley. they need a little bit more help there. that's going to create tricky conversations. >> i completely agree with that. this is a case where -- i'm sorry. ...

And to them to sort that out, particularly five days before an election. let me just say that obviously every american feels as if we were attacked also. it wasn't anybody in america today who doesn't reach out and express our sorrow and solidarity with the british people. but the fact is that if people want to kill themselves, this is really hard for law enforcement. and i know from my own law enforcement days how hard people work and how significant the intelligence gathering and coordination component of this is. but if someone is ready to just go out and meet a fuselage of law enforcement ...

I would never have believed about how safe that i feel even today after september 11th. this is a moment for the people of the uk where they're experiencing heightened sense of fragility walking into bars and concerts and crossing the street on the bridge. and yet at the same time i know that people in the communities of color in this country are also seeing that the president and the right wing are ignoring domestic extremism here in the united states, whether or not it's the young man who was a person who was in the military who was killed by a white supremacist or the veteran who stepped in...

All of this morning's major stories, former secretary of state john kerry. mr. secretary, welcome back to "meet the press," sir. >> good morning, chuck. thank you. >> i have to start with london. you heard michael lichter. you heard a little bit of what the prime minister theresa may said. i want to focus on that specific phrase she used, mr. secretary. that extremism, tolerance of extremism has been too -- for too long, too much tolerance of this extremism in the uk. is she right? >> well, that's a judgement she's going have to make about their own relationship with the muslim community and g...

>> richard in london, thank you very much. by the way, we're five days removed, five days away from the u.k. snap elections. joining me now is our nbc news national security analyst michael lichter. obviously, you ran the counter-terrorism center for us. one of the interesting things that the prime minister said is it's time to stop denying them safe space. she is talking about safe space in the digital environment. that's what they brought up first, not people going back and forth to syria. >> i think she's right. she sees that people are not necessarily just going to syria and training, they...