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Al qaeda nonsense that we have seen for 15, 20 years, but most of them aren't. most of them fundamentally disagree with that. so it's not they're going to become that. they're not going to join al qaeda, but they'll have no choice but to depend on al qaeda more. in their own eyes they see they have no choice if they're not getting help from the outside world. we see an insurgent -- urn -- we fought with stalin and we can understand people choose allies if they have no other way to survive. so that's the dynamic reinforcing. >> trace: michael ohandlan. good to see you. >> my pressure. >> trace:...

Forces. it's bad enough the u.n. is pulling out many of its personnel from damascus. also worth noting we have not seep assad, the president, for quite a queue days. there -- a few days there was a video allegedly showing him meeting some of the syrian people. we can't confirm when that video was shot but its worth noting, he, too, appears to be laying low for whatever reason right now. >> shepard: let's bring in michael ohandlan. specialeess in defense and foreign policy. >> hi. >> shepard: where are we now in this conflict? >> i think you and jonathan have been summarizing it well. you can s...

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