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That remains in limbo for some time. also keep in mind, ukraine is is in dire economic need and is going to need serious western financial incentives either from the imf or the european and the u.s. >> michael it seems that the u.s. has no ability to influence the situation at all no matter what russia does militarily, we're not going to counter that protecting american citizens who might be there. and the president has extraordinary ability to negotiate with put ton call him to ask him things. so the situation is going to play out the way putin does. is there anybody who might be able to stop...

Protest. this is about money. russia tried to -- ukraine wanted a european union association agreement. russia tried to buy them off with $15 billion and then didn't deliver. the result is outrage. the question is who is going to bid the most for the ukraine today. >> michael, what's happening in the ukraine is sparking memories of moscow in 1956 and czechoslovakia in 1958. and forces skilled 2500 in hu hungary. it's been called one of the darkest moments of the cold war. eisenhower was in the white house dealing with the suez crisis and chose against direct intervention. in '68, lbj chose not...

Michael is there a fear what it was one circa brezhnev and kruschev with little intervention from the u.s., is that putin's ultimate fantasy? >> absolutely. that was the major theme of my book "dancing with the devil" we can't project our own sincerity into the adversaries. the europeans in the united states look at it as trying to come to a win-win agreement but vladimir putin sees international relations as a zero sum game. he wince for that to happen, everyone else has to lose. the question is what he's willing to do to ensure his victory and whether we're going stand up to him. >> michael,...