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Needed and you force another conversation. martha: one of the main things, if i may that michael and others were marching for and calling for was to allow the process to begin, to take hold and to take place. >> that's right. >> they tried influence it. >> let us not be afraid to have a discussion about race. we can have a discussion in a civil way. >> this was not a tkeut a discussion about race. the network that edited the call by zimmerman, that he was hispanic, spanish and mixed. it was to drive the white di dynamic, when racism is just not about control. martha: it needs to be about what ...

Done our jobs. what is sharpton's job in this. >> it's our job. it's not about al sharpton, it's about us. thousands of people marched with the family. millions signed petitions, it's not just about al sharpton or jesse jackson. >> if our justice system was about mob rule versus due process in the law as written you would be right. martha: you would agree i would assume that michael and everybody -- they didn't have the right to go out -- >> once you've done your job applying their logic of bringing notice to it, they took it beyond that. they -- let's get justice and due process to play out f...

Byte from hits new attorney. his former attorneys dropped him because they hadn't heard from him. he has a concern about a fair trial in in case. let's listen to that. >> he's concerned about getting a fair trial and a fair presentation. there's obviously been a lot of information flowing. i think a lot of it has been both premature and inappropriate. martha: let's bring in the rest of your panel here. michael it felt yesterday as if, and i hope this is the case that this whole thing took a turn toward a more kind ever orderly judicial approach and it gave everybody a moment to sort of say oka...

By petition. we prosecute based on the facts of any given case, as well as the laws of the state of florida. martha: we want to talk to joey jackson former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. michael scolnic joins us as well. and david web of the david web show. thank you to all of you for being here this morning. joey i want to start with you and get your thoughts on this second-degree murder charge. you say that you're a bit concerned that this may be overcharging, why? >> i think so, martha. further taking a step back, this is what a grand jury would be. that's why i'm a little dishea...