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Staying on it with you. and some have just gone on to other things. but this has to be dealt with. the whole question of police reform, lesley. you bonded with other mothers who have the same situation around the country and whether it's on the front page or not, they want to see justice and change and some of us are in this for the long haul. >> yes, you've definitely been in this for the long haul, rev. i'm sorry you weren't here to receive your award. i know you're not in this for you but all of us. i couldn't have done it without you. i thank you very much for being a fighter for our right...

Brown's father, michael brown sr., called on the current county prosecutor to re-open the investigation after wilson was not indicted for his son's death. five years later, michael brown is still gone, but i join his father and my next guest and the families in promising that his death will never be in vain. joining me now is the mother of the late michael brown, one of the leaders of mothers of the movement, lesley mcspadden. and attorney benjamin crump who represented the family five years ago in this case. lesley, let me go to you first. you, i remember five years ago, your father called me...

Police kill when they don't have to, when these people are unarmed, and why are our black and brown children continue to be targeted? i don't see a change in ferguson at all, and we heard congressman clay in a luncheon over the weekend, they have several events, say that that consent decree that came down from eric holder has been sealed and cannot be touched by the trump administration. ferguson has work to do, not only work, they have catch-up work to do. we're waiting and watching and won't stop watching until we see the change that should be made, should have been made five years ago, that...

Eric garner. we all went to the cemetery with her. you have a passion that you're going to, as we say, michael, rest in power, you're not going to let this go and i thank you have really shown the kind of dignity, integrity, that a mother should show as well as michael sr. dealing with this. something has to change where we feel people are being treated fairly. it's not anti-police. it's about fairness and justice. >> absolutely, rev, and i know these are uncomfortable conversations for some, but we run comfortable. we've been uncomfortable for hundreds of years and until we can get to a comfo...

That looks good. >> when mikey was almost finished his second fight, my husband was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. to have that person get is sick in front of you and watch them deteriorate as your son gets better is rielle, really tough. >> nine months after his diagnosis, michael sr. died. >> at that point, you feel like you can't breathe. but you still try your best to take care of everyone and keep your little kids going. >> seeing mikey immediately took me back to colorado. and made my me think of john, my brother. he was diagnosed with brain cancer when he was just 10 years old. ...