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Actually incriminating him in crimes. his former lawyer michael cohen pleaded guilty to. none of this suggested that the president directed whitaker to stop the investigations however. joining me is robert mueller's former assistant at the department of justice, michael velden. happy holidays. good to see you. >> happy hollan -- holidays. >> and whit cher has been called on the carpet, for not protecting him, not standing in the way of prosecutors who were also making ties between michael cohen's charges and the actions of the president. is this of concern? >> of course it is of concern. the r...

Hour to develop any response. all of this is designed to consolidate the president's position inside his party in a way that makes ultimately republicans reluctant to move if mueller decides there's cause to examine impeachment. >> so then michael, from a prosecutorial or investigative point does it also demonstrate the trump campaign had a willingness or people in his campaign had a willingness to meet russians or anyone for dirt on hillary clinton and that could be potentially damaging? >> well, it would appear so. that they were willing to meet with people. they met with them in june. they ...

The white house is yet to respond, fred. >> all right. boris sanchez, thanks so much, at the white house. i'm going to bring in now michael velden, a cnn legal analyst and a former special assistant to robert mueller at the doj. ron brownstein is a cnn senior political analyst and senior editor at "the atlantic." and wesley lowry is a cnn contributor and national reporter at the "washington post." good to see you all. so you first. does it appear that roger stone and michael caputo want this kind of information out there now? they're willingly giving it first to the "washington post" to say lo...

Nation. i'm sorry, michael, go ahead real quick. >> i was going to say, which is why robert mueller wants to speak to the president of the united states before he reaches a conclusion. cause it is so unusual. mueller, i think to complete his inquiry, really needs to hear from the president. irrespective of whether the president is a target of his investigation or not, he needs to know what the president knows about his campaign. >> we'll leave it there. michael velden, ron brownstein, wes lowery. thank you very much. appreciate it. and happy father's day. still ahead, as protests at shelters h...