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Getting more and more attention now because of the zimmerman case. let's discuss it with our legal panel. we have two fine gentlemen jeff gold and brian hab i tack. we appreciate you this morning. let's start with you, brian. the states or at least the lawmakers must think there's a need for these laws or why would so many of them have this law? >> good morning, michaela. that defense is what we call an imperfect defense meaning there isn't always an opportunity to use that defense there was an opportunity to walk away from a situation. what these 38 states have done is they've taken that impo...

Here's the real problem, michaela. along with all this military hardware, there's tons of sugar, 10,000 tons of sugar. that has to come off the boat first before they know exactly what kind of ordinance is aboard the ship. >> they had to use some mechanism to unload the ship, correct? >> that's right. it took three days. they're claiming the north korean crew disabled some of the winches and cranes they used to unload this heavy-duty hundred dreads of tons of equipment and bags of sugar, so apparently what we're hearing is it's not going to be done by hand. the panamanian president saying at l...

Michaela @cnn. we have just receive add statement from juror b-37. she references "stand your ground." we're going to bring it to you right after this quick break. stay with us rj woernlt you. rts. i want to travel, and i want the income to do it. ishares incomes etfs. low cost and diversified. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal...

Talked about it. mo, let's bring you in. >> michaela, thank you so much. listen, bob. i think bob's answer right there that this is the first time we've heard white hispanic brought in by the media is just an example how different people live their lives and how different people are exposed. i'm half hispanic and half black. i've heard the term white hispanic my entire life. so, bob, just the fact you have never heard it shows me what a limited space you're living your life in and how most people live that way. it's not a new term. it takes a quick like this to, oh, my gosh, polarize you. this...