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Doing here and elsewhere, so many parties to conflict and things evolve fast. if you are president trump and you have a million issues, probably temptation to say, i don't want anymore to do with the conflict, i sense that is where he's coming from. i think it is bad way to make policy, but i have sympathy. >> shepard: didn't go to pentagon in advance. jennifer reported they had no idea this was coming. >> right, new chairman of joint chief, mark milley, hasn't had time to settle in the position, he's been in the job for a week. relatively new central command down in tampa, florida, mckenzie, ...

Northeastern syria. u.s. and top state department official says that is craziest thing he's ever heard because this is flat arid terrain, couldn't host millions of people. french ministry of foreign affairs says any unilateral action could have humanitarian consequences and would not bring about conditions necessary for safe and voluntary return of refugees to their area of origin and undermine the region. the german government and turkish government pulling for $27 million in aid to help in the plan, seems he is getting wide rejection on that, shep. >> shepard: rich, thanks. to michael o'hanl...

Baghdad, because it's a shiite city, because of that, they believe that baghdad will hold and in reality that gives them some time. it's a dire thought to imagine that only a third of the country has been taken over by isis and as long as baghdad holds, that gives us some time to decide on next steps. it's amazing how the calculus has changed in just the last week, really. >> interesting indeed. iraq is spiraling toward all out war between shiites and sunnis. let's bring in retired lieutenant general spider marks. michael o'hanlin joins us. michael, i'm going to start with you. iraqi prime min...

Over. 80% of the people are shias. i think isis will be stalled. the problem is the government of iraq is really on the brink of total collapse. we can't afford and i think michael would agree we can't afford to have a failed state of iraq. this is a rich country, an educated country and it cannot be a breeding ground for further terrorism. maliki has to be able to get some support so he can stop what looks like an inevitable collapse of his government. we have to have a robust conversation that talks about the government after next that does not include maliki and is more inclusive. if maliki...

Essentially taken over and he's basically excommunicated and expelled any sunni whether they be fair minded or not in the process. as well as firing a lot of good sunni generals in the iraqi army. a lot of those steps have to be reversed or there's no hope of ever taking back that western third of the country. >> side -- spider marks, you've heard michael's comments about the politics in baghdad, that mali is -- maliki is a failed leader with no hope for redemption. you believe the military advances of isis need to be stopped really no matter what. >> that's a precondition. maliki is totally i...