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>> i also think, all right, we won this thing. it's over, okay? we're going to have -- it really diss him in a big way. how is it going to be received? oh, i think it's already been received, you know, very well. i mean, people are kind of amused to see the whole thing turned into a joke. they were amused to see the birthers humiliated. the base likes it. the republican party in general is kind of chagrined over the whole thing. now trying to run away from the birthers. so you see people like michelle bachson. oh, birno, no, that was never m. so it turned out to be a net positive for him. >> a...

Won this thing. it's over, okay? we're going to have -- it really diss him in a big way. how is it going to be received? oh, i think it's already been received, you know, very well. i mean, people are kind of amused to see the whole thing turned into a joke. they were amused to see the birthers humiliated. the base likes it. the republican party in general is kind of chagrined over the whole thing. now trying to run away from the birthers. so you see people like michelle bachson. oh, no, no, that was never me. so it turned out to be a net positive for him. >> and he's taken a number of differe...