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That were perceived as being in male dominated realms. second, she really brought in a terrific crew of women into leadership positions in the pentagon, dramatically increase women in leadership positions. and i think people tend -- when you think about your virtual rolodex you tend to think of people you know, and men tend to know more men, and women know more women, so getting people in that high-ranking pentagon post, it occurred to her in the way it may not have occurred to men, that i know kathryn hicks, or jenean davis. and then finally, michelle fourneau put a lot of effort into making ...

>> is there a high-placed female that you think is reasonable to expect as the president continues to roll out his second term administration? >> i don't think we're likely to get one. i still think that the president obviously, he could ask michelle fourneau or susan rice to become the national security adviser. both of them would be fantastic in that job. likewise, you know, he -- depending on what happens with the position of director of national intelligence, if the current occupant stays or decides to go, that is another fantastic opportunity for a woman. and there are some women in the i...

Now have technologies that do make that possible. and i think that having a leader that emphasized that from the top really did change the work place culture. >> is there a high-profile female that you think is reasonable to expect as the president continues to roll out his second term administration? >> i don't think we're likely to get one. i still think that the president obviously, he could ask michelle fourneau or susan rice to become the national security adviser. both of them would be fantastic in that job. likewise, you know, he -- depending on what happens with the position of directo...

Where it struck me, obviously, i am completely biased. but it struck me that the most qualified person was a woman. chuck hagel is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot of ways. i don't know why he thinks that it takes a republican to be nominated two times out of three. >> michelle fourneau, her job as under-secretary was historically high level achievement, for somebody in the defense world. when she was there as such a highly regarded person as a potential next secretary of defense, did it make a difference in the pentagon? did it make a difference in that setting to have a woman at that ...

Classified information a lot we now have technologies that do make that possible. and i think that having a leader that emphasized that from the top really did change the work place culture. >> is there a high-placed female that you think is reasonable to expect as the president continues to roll out his second term administration? >> i don't think we're likely to get one. i still think that the president obviously, he could ask michelle fourneau or susan rice to become the national security adviser. both of them would be fantastic in that job. likewise, you know, he -- depending on what happe...