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>> larry's much-younger wife, elisa, she vanished a few months after he did and now that larry was dead, she was the prime suspect in his murder. sheriffs deputies and the fbi tracked her down in march 2002 in florida. >> she cut her hair short and changed her name. >> elisa was not now going by the name of shane ivaroni and was working as a paralegal at a florida law firm. >> elisa was a very smart person. she had, i believe, 140 iq. >> she could talk anybody into anything? >> right. >> but now that she was finally exposed for the con artist she was and was in custody, elisa decided to tell h...

Elisa, she vanished a few months after he did and now that larry was dead, she was the prime suspect in his murder. sheriffs deputies and the fbi tracked her down in march 2002 in florida. >> she cut her hair short and changed her name. >> elisa was now going by the name of shane ivaroni and was working as a paralegal at a florida law firm. >> elisa was a very smart person. she had, i believe, 140 iq. >> she could talk anybody into anything? >> right. >> but now that she was finally exposed for the con artist she was and was in custody, elisa decided to tell her story, starting at long last wi...

L-a-r-e-n. my middle name is rene, r-e-n-e-e. >> okay. >> my maiden name was sims, s-i-m-s. >> and elisa, where's that coming from. >> no, i left florida. you know, i mean, i was a fugitive from florida. >> she was a mother of two, wanted in florida for violating probation and had been on the run for nine years, she said. she eventually settled in las vegas where she met larry and by this time had changed her name to elisa. she told the police she was at the horse show in arizona when she found out police wanted to talk to her about larry. and so she took off in her jaguar, drove from state to...

More for him it's saying being willing to say i'm ready to deal with this person regardless of what they do in their home countries because i can -- there's a transactional relationship that can be had. it doesn't matter what you do, the means justify the ends and the ends are that i'm going to get a better deal. >> in fairness a lot of his supporters resonate with that kind of real politic. before i let you go, we have some more imagery we want to put up on the screen. a salute to her college tour. folks may remember that, that moment pausing with that bear but we have other ones. look at thi...

Time. >> what do you do? >> real estate. >> real estate. >> yeah. >> has anybody ever said to you there's so much on the line, the supreme court, all kinds of things? >> if you don't know anything, how are you supposed to to ne? you go do research. and i don't have the time for that. >> does washington, d.c., and what happens there feel relevant to your life here? >> no, not in my world. >> jacob soboroff joins me right here at ucla. so, jacob, you were in orange county, and i guess the question is, is the orange curtain as it's called going to fall in orange county? >> the real question is ho...