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17,000 so far sent into ukraine in just the past four weeks. so, yes. we need to continue to do as much as we can, but there's no silver bullet here. russians are stronger militarily than the ukrainesens. ukrainians have better fighting skill and morale on their side. other than us directly intervening, this going to go on for quite a long time. >> you make a bunch of great points, but go back to the one made very beginning. make sure i heard it correctly. you said those mig fighter jets would have to be launched from a u.s. air base, that the polish fighter jets, correct me if i heard you mis...

So it's kind of one, at least, to my mind is mistaken. >> so let's just remind our viewers of that. poland has -- there are a number of former eastern bloc countries who have these russian-made jets that the ukraine pilots can fly. poland offered to deliver them to the air base in germany and have america give them to ukraine while poland got new jets. that played out in public, the u.s. and nato has rejected that idea. tell me whether you think it would make a big difference. if you took these mig jets available, not being used and gave them to ukraine for their pilots, would it make a differ...

Breaking at this hour, a new look at ukrainian troops in a suburb of kyiv days after forcing russian troops lufyanka. a painted "o" symbol and issue of poland supplying old jets to ukraine's army. an idea not yet supported by the white house. poland's foreign minister said in spite of u.s. apprehension, the offer remains on the table. >> our offer repeatedly offered after long discussion with nato and our allies still stands. we believe we should be supporting ukraine and their defensive in every possible way. we are hearing if nato all particular country does something, then russia may consid...

Them. also one of the questions i keep on asking myself and not asking others and not getting answero an answer to, these migs have been modernized that the pols have significantly. different avianices, upgraded. a question whether ukrainians can fly them and have technical training ability to do that. >> whether or not airports that have been bombed out. a lot of jets need quite a long run space. trying to take off from airports bombed out strategically by the russian military a problem as well. another question that may sound elementary. if it does, apologies. talking about the migs issue. e...

Border -- ukraine border, poland, saw the refugees. i certainly understand the moral outrage the president must have felt and his emotions when he made that comment. it seems every time he goes off script he causes some international incident here. when they say they don't want to be provocative by bringing in mig jets and yet he makes comments like these that are very provocative with respect to putin particularly on the heels of these major negotiations that we think are going to be taking place in the next couple of days. it overshadowed the entire nato, eu, g7 summit this is all everybody ...