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I think we're going to see an even steeper rise in violence because of it. >> we call it radical. the reality is we should call it for what it is. it's not necessarily terrorism. it's not necessarily radical. it is a global movement called the caliphate. when we fight these skirmishes, and create a vacuum and we basically do the dirty work for these really, really bad people who want to go and change the way the face of the globe. >> it's interesting, general petraeus said this week that we can't become the air force from one side over the other. >> but where we've created the vacuum, but now ...

I think we're going to see an even steeper rise in violence because of it. >> we call it radical. the reality is we should call it for what it is. it's not necessarily terrorism. it's not necessarily radical. it is a global movement called the caliphate. when we fight these skirmishes, and create a vacuum and we basically do the dirty work for these really, really bad people who want to go and change the way the face of the globe. >> it's interesting, general petraeus said this week that we can't become the air force from one side over the other. >> but where we've created the vacuum, but now ...

I think we're going to see an even steeper rise in violence because of it. >> we call it radical. the reality is we should call it for what it is. it's not necessarily terrorism. it's not necessarily radical. it is a global movement called the caliphate. when we fight these skirmishes, and create a vacuum and we basically do the dirty work for these really, really bad people who want to go and change the way the face of the globe. >> it's interesting, general petraeus said this week that we can't become the air force from one side over the other. >> but where we've created the vacuum, but now ...

Until they win that battle inside, and only they can win it, we're going to go on creating the impression that the islamists, the jihadists are the majority, and they are not. >> is that right, brigitte? >> not necessarily, because the majority of peaceful loving muslims, then what do they have to worry about in their own community? look at the muslims in the united states. if there was ever a group of people who are protected under our constitution to speak freely and be protected and supposedly the majority of them are moderate, how come they are not binding together, and if any radical hurt...

Until they win that battle inside, and only they can win it, we're going to go on creating the impression that the islamists, the jihadists are the majority, and they are not. >> is that right, brigitte? >> not necessarily, because the majority of peaceful loving muslims, then what do they have to worry about in their own community? look at the muslims in the united states. if there was ever a group of people who are protected under our constitution to speak freely and be protected and supposedly the majority of them are moderate, how come they are not binding together, and if any radical hurt...