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Members of congress knew this was going on because of -- just because of the front page of the post. they should have picked up the phone and the white house rose garden event and some of the other things on the pr public optics side are not just -- i'm not going to defend them on that. i think on bergdahl himself, look, you are innocent until proven guilty. he will come back. he will be be tried. if he is a deserter, he will be tried under the military code of justice and under that code the death penalty is one of the penalties he will get tore that. i think if he is the deserter that member...

Wording or even unsaid, okay nod in army code, in military code, in our national code where you can walk off and leave base and leave your fellow men and women behind. would this letter be true or not? those reasons are not indicated by our service men and women, not indicated to them, not indicated from them as valid reasons to leave your men and women behind. >> i just hope that the white house doesn't choreograph any testimony and any investigation. i just hope the army gets to do it themselves. therefore, i know justice will be served, and maybe he's going to be totally exonerated once he ...

He will be part of a investigation. you heard from members of the unit about what they think happen. he will have a chance to provide information on his own behalf and if there is it evidence of a crime here, his commander can convoen a court martial. he is not be tried on television or internet. but when someone deserts their unit in a time of war, that is a capitol offense under military code of justice. i am all for due process and everyone is presumed independent until proven get. but the military will investigate his conduct and if the allegations are proven to be true, he put his unit at...

Them. so he goes back a long way in terms of heinous crimes against innocent citizens in america. that's point one. the other thing i wanted to add, andrea, is that mike mullen is not only a patriot in terms of his efforts with the war on terror in afghanistan, and pakistan, but he more than any other member of the military was responsible for the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell." he was the guy who stood up and said it's not right for people to hide who they are. i think we should salute him on the day he retires from the military. >> indeed. that is a point we've been making. he said if you...