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To public auction for the first time. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. the african elephant is an endangered species. has put a harsh spotlight on two decades of new military commitment in afghanistan. looks and feels like an strategic defeat. but what does that tell us about the wider balance of power? is this reverse for the us and her allies a positive for russia.
Welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. the chaotic evacuation operation still underway at kabul airport has put a harsh spotlight on two decades of us and nato military commitment in afghanistan. it looks and feels like a strategic defeat, but what does it tell us about the wider geopolitical balance of power? well, my guest is russia's ambassador to the uk, andrei kelin. is this reverse for the us and her allies a positive for russia? and is moscow seeking to exploit other perceived vulnerabilities in the west?
Confirm if people weren't out by the deadline, we would go back and get them. have you had any private conversations in which you've been assured that we'll get everybody out? >> no, i have not. >> jackie, i want to bring you in. i want to show you what i think the solid ground is this president is standing on before the events of the last say 72 hours. it's clear from the reporting the intelligence picture became bleaker as the summer went on. they saw what we saw on television live 72 hours. before this calamity, the human tragedy, there was i think about 25% of the country was for continuin...
Minutes of relaxation and whatever else then that is fine but i am pretty sure that they wanted to live a life in peace because most of them are decent people but obviously the taliban are taking everything to square one so it is nice to see there was a time when things went 0k there was a time when things went ok but people have not died so what we to sink today can happen. —— what we are witnessing today. you to sink today can happen. -- what we are witnessing today.— are witnessing today. you think this should have — are witnessing today. you think this should have been _ are witnes...
With long term issues. >> this is having a damaging effect. >> he talks about having no commitment to the kurds, it's true we have no military commitment, we would try to make sure any political resolution ensured that the kurds rights were represented. the syrian government has marginalized and sometimes percent indicated the kurds, and it was very important -- that was the quid pro quo in a way. the kurds were approached the same day in 2014, by the leader of the iranian revolutionary guards could force military officer. the iranians opted for more. and now we're walking away. >> you call th...