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Shannon, did the senators seem amenable at the hearing? >> they did. everybody is angry about this. this is a bipartisan issue. nobody wants to hear about military families struggling in their own homes. we look to the holidays. we have families that have been displaced more than 100 days. imagine not knowing when you're going to be in your house, if you can set up a christmas tree. so this is something, it's not just a military problem. it's something that we should all be angry about, something that we should be active and engaged on. military families sacrifice so much. they shouldn't have ...

Doctrine now. the trump doctrine you have the tools in the your tool box, why debate them or figure them out individually? if president trump can use economics to solve a military problem he will try to do it. past presidents have said we'll make a deal here even though we have problems there. even though iran supports terrorism and hezbollah, hamas and big problems with iran we'll make a nuclear deal that looks good on paper. president trump says wait a minute. i can stop you from selling your oil, right and you'll have to come to the table. i think they are feeling the pressure. is enriching...

Iran problem is to overthrow the iranian regime. first of all, that seems very unlikely. this is a regime well entrenched. secondly, this is fueling iran nationalism because they see themselves as being bullied by america. third, imagine the chaos. if we thought regime change in the iraq produced chaos in the middle east, regime change in iran will be a different level. they have their tentacles in syria and lebanon and iraq. >> but they have proxy supporters all over. >> exactly. they actually helped us enormously in afghanistan. they could destabilize afghanistan where there are still americ...

Entrenched. secondly, this is fueling iran nationalism because they see themselves as being bullied by america. third, imagine the chaos. if we thought regime change in the iraq produced chaos in the middle east, regime change in iran will be a different level. >> much more complicated. >> much more chaotic. they have their tentacles in syria and lebanon and iraq. >> but they have proxy supporters all over. >> exactly. they actually helped us enormously in afghanistan. they could destabilize afghanistan where there are still american troops. >> i mean, this would be iraq on steroids. a much mo...

A problem they have a military problem in the same time you have civilization issues on the southern flank of nato so failing states of corruption all this what you have on the in the kind of southern area of europe and that's and then you have to look beyond i think one of the issues about the europeans need to think and they do it needs to think of china the americans agree that the next life would be for the covered actually is great power competition russia and mainly china so the question for us europeans is do we agree what does it mean do we have an active role to play do we have a kind...