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>> reporter: now, the president-elect has said that nato is important to him, but he has not been precise about how important and under what circumstances. jim. >> barbara, you walk the halls of the pentagon often. i am curious how defense officials are taking the president-elect calling u.s.'s biggest military alliance obsolete. >> reporter: i think there is more than superficial politics here. underneath there is a serious military problem. miscalculation. if the united states military cannot, along with the commander in chief, have a single, unified message about what is important, what u.s...

The controversies in the region over the future shape of syria. and whether iran or saudi arabia is going to dominate the region. and isis is the product of sunni struggles against the iranian bashar al assad alliance. so until you can work out the agreements between saudi arabia and iran, isis is like a franken stein, it's grown out of all proportions out of what it's original funders thought it might do. so it's out of control, but until they can agree on the politics, they can't come together to eliminate it. so it's a political problem, not a military problem. >> if you had to put together...

Is an understanding to get into grips with this. david cameron has been speaking openly for once and finally about the threat that they pose. i would encourage other world leaders to recognize this problem as an ideas problem in civil society. less son than a physical military problem. the first and primary solution is going to be winning back the hearts and minds of those disenfranchised youth across the west and making sure they don't conform to this extremism in the first place. >> we only have 45 seconds left. it does strike me it's all well and good for david cameron to do this, it would ...

Mistake before of getting involved in the middle east and thinking that it was the united states' problem to solve, that it was a military problem and worth american lives and money and influence to be expended. it depends who you are. it doesn't -- i think we'll see the larger outcome will just have to be, when does peace in syria come, and how does it happen? >> so to all of those constituencies, is there a single clear objective that you believe that has been communicated well? >> i think the only thing in common everybody wants is peace in syria. and some sort of settling of the con confli...

Cancer treatment centers of america. call or visit cancercenter.com to learn more about precision cancer treatment. to the taliban and all who oppose afghanistan, progress, the only way to help is through a lasting political settlement with the afghan government. >> with sam harris, majid, how long will it take to get the taliban to enter a peace agreement, a real one with the afghan government? >> well, until president obama and all the leaders across the world can recognize that we're not dealing with just the military problem. we're not dealing with just the legal problem. and we're certain...