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In north korea. the iranians technicians have seen the north korea nuclear detonations. they have been there. so the two regimes are joined at the hip. iran's supposed to pay north korea something like $2.5-$3 billion a year for various forms of cooperation. that is an indication that the two nations the two regimes are so close together. >> jason: general tata, i want to ask you quickly, i have to go around the horn because i have to wrap up here. what is the effect in syria? you see a lot of actions by the israelis but what is the effect directly on what is going on, on the ground in syria? ...

In north korea. the iranians technicians have seen the north korea nuclear detonations. they have been there. so the two regimes are joined at the hip. iran's supposed to pay north korea something like $2.5-$3 billion a year for various forms of cooperation. that is an indication that the two nations the two regimes are so close together. >> jason: general tata, i want to ask you quickly, i have to go around the horn because i have to wrap up here. what is the effect in syria? you see a lot of actions by the israelis but what is the effect directly on what is going on, on the ground in syria? ...

Uranium will lead to a nuclear proliferation and arms race of other middle eastern countries. saudi arabia and iran are direct regional competitors so if iran immediately tries to get a nuclear weapon again, the saudis will have to do the same. that is why all of our nato allies, plus in the polling of 2:1 majority of americans, all the democrats and the significant number of republicans think that the president has made a mistake doing this. now i will applaud him on north korea. i think the president is doing a good job exploring diplomacy. with iran we preemptively shot ourselves in the foo...

Ways. there have been north korean chemical engineers in syria. don't forget that the israelis bombed a north korean built nuclear reactor in syria years ago. that was also backed by iran. these are linkages here, strategic linkages that ambassador bolton, president trump, secretary mattis understand and know how to go after. that is why you are seeing real results from the trump administration. >> jason: that is what i want to ask gordon about. gordon, you saw what we have been doing in north korea. you are such an expert on that. what is the message of north korea and how should the iranians...

Then and today remove iran from the state sponsor of terror list. that meant that businesses could do trade with them, foreign aid could go to them and arms could go to them. meanwhile, flushed iran with billions of dollars of cash that immediately went to the enemy unless the region. hamas, hezbollah, syria and the palestinians that threatened our number one ally israel. so this was a terrible deal. it had very, very loose teeth in it. there was just no way to enforce it. the reason europe is fighting for it is because the economic boondogglal. >> jason: general, thank you for your service an...