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More jobs, and, transfer -- therefore, more taxes in the process of bringing this budget into line but in the static level, the poor, the low income groups, should not see any increase in taxes at all and the marge national tax rates being lowered, you won't see any more tax rates on those people, either. if the middle group that will have some more, businesses, et cetera, but bottom line, that's not including growth, which is really the whole purpose of doing this and to get growth, more jobs, and more output. bill: at the beginning of your answer you said you want to see taxes go up for ever...

Income tax, a portion or percentage of them that would, and that raises revenue into washington and you believe that stimulates growth. >> yes. bill: herman cain said friday night he's going to come out with do tals on the people he consulted with and more information on. -- on this. we're await thank today. art laffer, thank you very much. >> a pleasure. bill: 19 minutes past the hour. martha: you couldn't miss him if you looked at the newspapers or anything over the weekend, wall street protests, rattling in cities around the world now and the president stepped a bit closer to embracing the ...

>> reporter: bill, it's pretty interesting, despite that very high price, 80 percent of israelis say they think this is a deal the country should make, though 60 percent of this country feels that that -- feels that releasing these guys is going to create more bloodshed, there will be more israelis killed by mill fant groups, however, the families thoafts who have already killed from those being released say this is a very bad deal. >> a suicide bomber blew up haifa bus 37, killing zur and 17 others, many, like the boy nicknamed blondie were heading home from school. >> is the fact that the ma...