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Our technology playbook, and that really compromises us. >> what about what he says which is you can't prove there was any real damage done? >> look -- >> how does he know that is an obvious follow-up? >> i think both sides have some credibility problems. the administration has been evasive and has lied about its espionage tactics but on the other hand i would have more faith in snowden if he wasn't a guest of vladimir putin. younger people have a more favorable illinompression becau they're less worried about ou their data is used. there's an interesting juxtaposition. >> they're used to it. ...

Information about so-called spying on americans, he leaked our technology playbook, and that really compromises us. >> what about what he says which is you can't prove there was any real damage done? >> look -- >> how does he know that is an obvious follow-up? >> i think both sides have some credibility problems. the administration has been evasive and has lied about its espionage tactics but on the other hand i would have more faith in snowden if he wasn't a guest of vladimir putin. younger people have a more favorable illinompression becau they're less worried about ou their data is used. th...

Guest of vladimir putin. younger people have a more favorable impression because they're less worried about how their data is used. there's an interesting juxtaposition. >> they're used to it. on the one hand we're used to the world being that way. the way young folks relate to snowden goes to this idea mill len yells, i'll take it into my own hands, i can do it. there's a part of snowden that represents more of a culture. of the millenniums. >> newt, here is secretary hagel this morning when i asked him to respond to what snowden himself said which is, hey, the government can't prove their cl...