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Probably than not standard? all because he's not going to turn over his -- do you mind if we read your phone right now steve, can we read your phone? >> not only that joe -- >> nobody has that right. >> not only that but the nfl -- >> wait a minute. he wants to -- joe, first of all, i agree with you about the more probably than not, as a matter of fact. it's a very low standard. puts somebody in equivalent in skral in the jail in the football business. the reason it was more probably than not because they didn't have the evidence. if you end up in court, whether civil or criminal and somebody ...

>> joe. >> mika there are excuses for every one of these countries that wouldn't be showing up but you look at the countries that are turning down an invitation to spend one-on-one time with the president of the united states alone at camp david, talking about the most important security issue certainly that they faced in a very long time. and you're going to have skeptical headlines and you're going to have skeptical editorials like you have on the editor kralial page of the "wall street journal". that said, saudi arabia very clearly came out like we first reported on "morning joe," t came ou...

>> of course not. >> so are we talking two games to four game this is your mind? >> maybe suspend him for a game. fine him. ir i wouldn't even have done two games. >> we'll move on to real news although this i think -- it's a talker i have to say.mazeing to -- >> what would you have done mika? >> i would have shut the whole thing down but that's a different story. >> cancel the super bowl. >> just we're done. any excuse. let's move on. we have a lot of foreign policy to get to. some big developments here. saudi arabia's foreign minister is dismissing reports that king salman is snubbing presid...