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Hear about him as regards his responsibilities?— responsibilities? i'm here in washington. _ responsibilities? i'm here in washington, dc, _ responsibilities? i'm here in washington, dc, and - responsibilities? i'm here in washington, dc, and my . responsibilities? i'm here in - washington, dc, and my colleague is in court in atlanta. what we were expecting to see was something of a mini trial, and my colleague from messenger is providing updates on that. we are expecting to hear testament from the secretary of state in georgia, and the person on the infamous phone call where trump urged him...

Wants to go with defending these cases. >> so kaitlyn, looking ahead to monday, just a few days from now because there is this crucial hearing for mark meadows in his efforts to move to federal court. what are we going to hear here and see here? >> john, we are going to see people underoath for the first time in any court being on display as giving evidence in the case against donald trump. and in this particular situation, the case against mark meadows. so in this hearing it is a hearing regarding meadows trying to move his case from state court to federal court because he says too he was act...

Here. and it could sort of turn into somewhat of a mini trial because we're expecting testimony from the secretary of the state there, who has been subpoenaed, so there could be a mini trial for mark meadows, essentially unfolding in federal court, and then separately here in d.c., judge chutkan is going to be setting the trial date. in some ways, that really is, i think, the ball game because that's the trial that really is on the fastest track and could be the simplest to move forward because it only involves one defendant, doesn't involve multiple defendants. there's a possibility that the ...

Trump regarding the election were necessary and proper to his exercise of his legitimate office. >> norm, let me get back to you for a moment. we know fani willis, the district attorney has subpoenaed georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger for monday's meadows' hearing. what could be the significance of his testimony? >> the hearing on monday is an evidentiary one, wolf. it is like a mini trial. mark meadows is going to go in there and he has go the to carry the burden to show that that his acts were official and necessary and proper. if he meets that responsibility, and while it is an ...

Sits next to them. the fact that trump would rather be on the campaign trail, for example, doesn't constitute that kind of prejudice, nor does the fact that he has other indictments going on simultaneously. it remains to be seen -- first of all, we haven't seen trump's motion. he's just filed a notice that he intends to file his own motion, and it remains to be seen whether a judge will entertain that, and then of course there's the other issue, is this case going to be in the state court to begin with. i think mark meadow's motion to remove to federal court is likely a loser, but on monday we...