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Lot of reporting from military people who had served with him who were kind of surprised by the role he took in the campaign, the public role, and things like chanting, lock her up. >> there's a debate, it's a continuous and ongoing debate been the military about how much do retired officers or ncos get involved in politics. it's one thing to support a candidate or speak highly of a candidate or do programs like some people have done. i've attempted to be apolitical on this program, you know that, but sometimes you get sucked in one way or the other because of action of political candidates. i...

Most extraordinary contact between trump and comey. there was a meeting in the oval office, and trump shoed away the vice president, the attorney general, and it was just man-to-man with -- with comey. and what does donald trump say? he says, i want you to go easy on michael flynn. flynn's a good guy. leave flynn alone. today we learned maybe why he was doing that. because flynn knows a lot about the misconduct that was going on in the white house. and the fact that he was trying to cover up for flynn is really i think an incredibly damaging piece of evidence about the president's culpability ...

Back to our breaking news tonight. former national security adviser michael flynn's guilty plea in the russia probe and the resulting fallout. lieutenant general mark hurtling served in the army with michael flynn, and knows him well. he joins me now. general, i want to know what you make of his guilty plea. >> two things. the emotions kind of go back and forth between embarrassed for the army, because this was a guy at the senior ranks. there's only about 20 or so three-star generals, the same rank i held in the army, and mike flynn was one of them. because he's in that position, he's given s...

Going to say this, if you get a federal prosecutor who decides he doesn't like you, you got a lot of trouble, and it doesn't matter what the truth is. he'll find out you filed -- >> van, is that what's happening here? >> listen, it's amazing to me to hear conservatives concerned about prosecutorial abuse and sometimes prosecutors have too much power. we've been screaming about that in the hood for years. hold on a second. i don't want for us to go with this idea that flynn's this kind of minor guy. they got rid of him. nobody was closer to trump than flynn for the whole campaign. he was closer...

Little differently. i think president trump proved yet again, something he's known for his whole career, in fact he's famous for it. this is -- this guy mike flynn, surprisingly to many people who knew him, maybe not according to obama, but he lied to mike pence, he lied about that, and he was fired for his job. and he lied to the fbi, which even the most basic sort of bureaucrat knows you can't lie to the fbi. so president trump fired the guy within 25 days, realizing he couldn't do the job. it's very unfortunate -- >> wait, let me just stop you there. he was informed flynn lied, and you just...