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Identified in the obstruction of congress? that mueller talked about. that's a profound issue that as far as i can tell is completely unresolved within the democratic caucus. >> as a law enforcement member, what do you think? is it better to have a clean ukraine focused impeachment, even though it's a political decision not a law enforcement one, or do you think expanded to include the previous allegations of obstruction of justice. >> i have great respect for the work of the special counsel team. i think that the report is clearly, lays out at least eight different categories of obstructive a...

Happened one day after bob mueller testified and it became clear president trump was not going to get impeached. they need to stop him. they're view. >> yes. adam schiff makes the case what the president viewed with mueller as an exoneration and said, no holds barred. pick up the phone and do it again. so that's one case of the deaths. the invocation of the mueller report is also interesting as even just democrats on this committee and larger democratic caucus have a decision to make. do you write three or four, two or three narrow articles of impeachment based mainly on the ukraine call as ab...

Miles of territory in ukraine. this is very bad thing. this is a very bad look. it look ts like the secretary of energy trading on his office for his friends. so i think this could motivate the secretary to come back and say maybe i will respond to your subpoena. that i testify. certainly his reputation is ruined. we have now a host of people figures across the administration who are proven to be corrupt and spineless. proven to be lacking in character. character is what you do when nobody is looking. all of these people did terrible things. the question is will any of them want to do the righ...

Others could have amazing information if they testify. >> mick mulvaney. his admission there was a quid pro quo. it was quoted in the intel report. how damming is that for the president? and for him. >> i think -- we know he tried to take the words back and he can be ignored. we don't need to call it a quid pro quo. we can call it were they extracting something from ukraine to get something they want. call it whatever you want. that's the key point. this is what i liked about the house intel report. we have all the wonderful witnesses. i love them. they were waxing eloquent about ukraine and t...

Don't think. what do you have to lose throwing in everything you wanted to impeach him through. >> maybe 10, 12 hard house seats? >> i disagree. they're already in the bucket here, already down this road. throwing on a few more articles of impeach mament that truly -- also calls from happening in the future why doesn't that apply to the mueller report? don't naught in. that's okay but the ukrainian call's not okay? i never believed they could stop at ukraine because of no prayer to convict the president and b., their meshes think this is just as impeachable as this. >> i would say very wise to...