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Shinse shinseki. if he was telling things were going on out of his control, you go to the next step up and did it get to the white house? i'm not sure. in the interim, fire him, put someone else in there. when you do that, you send a signal that works for the new administrators they won't play around anymore. they won't let you get away with hidden lists that frankly are killing veterans. >> if shinseki does go, though, the pressure seems to dissipate, right? so with him continuing to stay there, the pressure stays on the v.a., the same way it stayed on hhs, the same way it stayed on the irs w...

Shinse shinseki. if he was telling things were going on out of his control, you go to the next step up and did it get to the white house? i'm not sure. in the interim, fire him, put someone else in there. when you do that, you send a signal that works for the new administrators they won't play around anymore. they won't let you get away with hidden lists that frankly are killing veterans. >> if shinseki does go, though, the pressure seems to dissipate, right? so with him continuing to stay there, the pressure stays on the v.a., the same way it stayed on hhs, the same way it stayed on the irs w...