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By all rational numbers, by all sort of right track, wrong track until the last week or so, the economic numbers, it should have been an anti-incumbent election. and people would want to -- people would be waiting for romney to do a reagan as in cleveland as he did in 1980 and sort of become plausible. but somehow or another, the president's campaign has kept that from being the decisive moment. >> you know, there are a lot of americans that really sick months ago did not want to vote for barack obama. a lot of swing voters did not want to vote. the president was upside down with independent v...

Really kind of finalize things in terms of the public's overall sense of how it is going. the only other point i would make to chip's point as is sort of a counter to this. cnn had a poll where they asked republican voters if they wanted to see the race wrapped up at the primaries or at the convention and 43% said at the convention. there is desire for -- >> chris: i voted several times. >> we are are all voting for that. >> chris: of course. even if romney wins this i think it is clear and i will put up some polls myself that the battle for the nomination has really hurt romney, bill. let's t...

Romney in wisconsin would really kind of finalize things in terms of the public's overall sense of how it is going. the only other point i would make to chip's point as is sort of a counter to this. cnn had a poll where they asked republican voters if they wanted to see the race wrapped up at the primaries or at the convention and 43% said at the convention. there is desire for -- >> chris: i voted several times. >> we are are all voting for that. >> chris: of course. even if romney wins this i think it is clear and i will put up some polls myself that the battle for the nomination has really ...

Establishment embracing, as you saw, governor romney. at a time when his campaign is falling apart, obama, and this is great panic in the party that he will not beat obama but that we could lose seats in the senate, and maybe lose control of the house. real worry this guy is a bad leader of the ticket. >> margins, both houses could be lost. >>greg: pat mentioned the negatives of romney. romney has a large net negative favorability rating of minus 16. and 34 percent favorable, the "washington post" poll, and president obama's favorability is plus ten. he is at 53 percent versus 34 percent. what...

Really kind of finalize things in terms of the public's overall sense of how it is going. the only other point i would make to chip's point as is sort of a counter to this. cnn had a poll where they asked republican voters if they wanted to see the race wrapped up at the primaries or at the convention and 43% said at the convention. there is desire for -- >> chris: i voted several times. >> we are are all voting for that. >> chris: of course. even if romney wins this i think it is clear and i will put up some polls myself that the battle for the nomination has really hurt romney, bill. let's t...