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>> and it's difficult to sit here and defend obama and being like the only one on the talk show, i'll take it because i just see these numbers went up and up and up and his programs working more and more and more and i see the republicans falling apart. and his approval numbers the first time. 50% is an important number to get to and that's 50-46. and that's a big change from three or four months ago, getting wetter and better, you've got to look at the time line. >> bob, and it's still within the margin of error of plus or minus 4% so how can it be considered statistically stig. >> i'm agreei...

Beat the president, 48 to 43%. president would do a little better against newt gingrich. jon: but he would still lose. gingrich getting 48 to the president's 45. when you factor in margin of error in both polls, plus or minus 4% it is really too close to call. joining us stuart rot thenburg, columnist for "roll call" and editor of the rot thenburg political report. these can not be numbers for the white house. president appears to be in much more trouble this time around? >> jon, this confirms everything we've been talking about the past few months. the president face as very different politic...

"the washington post." it's going to be moderated by charlie rose. that's going to be good. let's go to the gallup poll as it stands today. as you can see right there, we're talking about the numbers in the right-hand column. romney at 20%. herman cain at 19%. the margin of error is plus or minus 4. they're tied. rick perry has plummeted. he's had 31% and now he's down by half. >> not only in the polls is it showing a shift, physically on the stage tonight. we alluded this to yesterday on a interview we conducted on "fox & friends" maybe the organizers of the debate would change the order in w...

This time the pistons got the easy win, but there is a glimmer of hope for the cavs. the wizards who haven't won a road game all season. that's your "first look" at sports. i'm fred roggin. and now for another quick like at the weather, here's nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather. hey, bill. >> i keep getting excited because of the big warm-up. people are walking outside this morning like what is he talking about. >> you're just a big tease. you'd better follow through on this. >> this morning it's still a very cold morning. buffalo has a windchill of minus 4 and minus 6 in pittsbu...

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