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Have asked for. >> harris: before i let go, i want to ask you basic question. where they really -- with theresa may and those that were helping her write this deal -- were they taking seriously enough the call and the thirst for exiting the european union? i ask you that because you can read about the trouble that the miss estimation, if you will, by david cameron cost him. how much it cost him. is he in the same boat? >> theresa may, she voted against brexit when she was before -- >> harris: but she said she could get a deal. did you ever really come on board? >> i think that theresa may has ...

Missed a moment. and by we, i mean basically liberal and progressive forces in this country. there was a miss estimation of obama and a level of passivity. this magical view of that moment that obama would deliver and that we would sit back. so we revel, we party, we're excited. but while that was happening and while the conservative forces were in disarray, we were not doing anything, we were not putting the pressure on the obama administration that needed to happen. we should have been in the streets demanding jobs. >> what you said is there's a tension between what you each are saying, bill...