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An early morning breakfast and very interesting to listen to him talk. first and foremost, chairman kim simply hasn't made that decision to disarm, and integrate his economy and improve his economy. that's the first thing he has to do but also sounded like he was given pretty bad advice by his advisors that what he offered would be accepted by president trump. they offered that right upfront and president trump, secretary pomona utterly rejected it i don't know what chairman kim thought had changed in terms of the president accepting this, but president trump was absolutely right in walking aw...

Fact that the u.s. and north korea can't even agree on what they disagreed on. they don't even have a story that matches about what just happened, the bottom line is that no matter what the north koreans wanted from us, the only thing they were willing to give us was the destruction of this one facility, like an old decaying facility that they'll have to get rid of any way -- >> not to mention they're entire nuclear arsenal that they still have. >> right. they weren't willing to put anything on the table that showed the real sincerity for denuclearization and, of course, trump had to walk away...

Korea, even mike pompeo yesterday saying that north korea is still a nuclear threat despite what president trump was tweeting out that it was not. could this have an impacted on the upcoming talks between trump and kim this week when you have the u.s. really on -- senior members of the administration on disagreeing sides? >> yeah, absolutely. pompeo's job is really not an enviable one. he's been handed this sort of flaming bag of poop, i would say. i don't think that anyone besides this president is excited heading into this summit. north korea continued to expand its missile program. working ...

Pretty good job the last four, five, six years building up his nuclear capabilities as well as his missile capability, and at a time when china, the united states, other countries basically did not take any action to prevent that. second, we're at a spot now where i think the president very much wants a win. we all know he wants to win the nobel peace prize. but if he can get some agreement with kim jong-un, he then will take that as a victory and go home and say, hey, look, i've normalized relations on the peninsula, and kim jong-un is not going to be a threat anymore. i think that's a hollow...

Cautious approach this time? >> i think expectations are lower. i think they realized they're not going to get denuclearization as they've described it in the past. and they want some kind of agreement, so they're going to agree to something less than they have been talking about earlier. >> so what could be the agreement? what would be the hope that the white house, you know, could be reaching toward or, in your view, what would be considered an accomplishment from this second summit? >> i think if there are dates, like benchmarks, where by a certain date north korea commits to opening up par...