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From the penalty gone that north korea may be further along now than we thought in terms of actually being able to put a nuclear war head on a missile? >> reporter: that's right. that was part of a bigger assessment that came from the defense intelligence agency. part of their job is to look at the missile capability of other nations. now what we've seen since that came out are all kinds of u.s. officials basically throwing water on it, putting it into context, putting restrictions on it, saying what they think is basically. they don't believe north korea today has the capability to launch a n...

With north korea different? do we have any way of knowing that? >> i think it's different, in the sense that you have a young and i would say rather immature young leader who really doesn't have much worldly experience. and again escalating the rhetoric to the point of threatening a nuclear attack upon the united states or our allies. when you engage in that kind of rhetoric, it becomes much more difficult to find a way down from the heights of that. and so i think that it makes it different now that we see that they are becoming much more aggressive. at least rhetorically. they are developing...

Let's go back to tom foreman, and spider marx for more on this. >> there's a tremendous amount of power in the young man's hands. let's talk about this nuclear capability first. what do we think they have right now? >> tom, we think they have eight bombs. they probably have the material for 12. but we don't think these are weaponized. they haven't been married up with a missile capability to launch at some place else. >> as long as they're not able to be delivered well, they're not weaponized. >> correct. >> they have a tremendous amount of rockets and missiles. talk about this. >> the korean ...

Problem. we'll get back to you if seoul, south korea. about 30 miles or so from the demilitarized zone with north korea. north korea's nuclear capabilities are an open question. their conventional military is heavily equipped, capable of inflicting immense casualties and damages on the millions and millions of people just below the demilitarized zone. let's go back to tom forman for this. >> a tremendous amount of power if the hands of this young man. let's talk about this nuclear capability first. what do we really think they have right now is this. >> tom, we think they have eight bombs. the...

Obviously, that is a key problem. we'll get back to you if seoul, south korea. about 30 miles or so from the demilitarized zone with north korea. north korea's nuclear capabilities are an open question. their conventional military is heavily equipped, capable of inflicting immense casualties and damages on the millions and millions of people just below the demilitarized zone. let's go back to tom forman for this. >> a tremendous amount of power if the hands of this young man. let's talk about this nuclear capability first. what do we really think they have right now is this. >> tom, we think t...