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To change interyags nal boundaries on the continent of europe and continue to interfere in ukraine created an environment where this specific tragedy wasn't fore seeable but understandable this can happen. so i think american policy has to change not just with respect to ukraine. but more broadly i think we've got to look at russia as putin made it out to be. it's an adversary. we need to go back to a strong missile defense program. and if people want to talk about sanctions, no more pin prick sanctions against the russians. let's do something significant. >> western europeans have their hands...

European countries have been saying forever, russia is more dangerous than you think. many of them were quite upset when obama decided to move a missile defense program we had from eastern europe elsewhere because he said he didn't want russia to feel it was the target of that and told putin it wasn't. the eastern europeans said, no, it should be. there's a lot of reassurance that needs to be done. that's really biden's focus there. >> and on the specific subject of sanctions, what's the precedent for trying with targeted individual sanctions on inner circle members of this regime rather than ...

Russia. >> i think we have to go back to it may be too late to really influence what is going on now. certainly there is a lot of things that we should can do, a lot of diplomacy should be happening. but i'm more concerned about the larger issues in eastern europe. we saw president obama really dial back the missile defense program in eastern europe. we saw him tell the russian leader that he'd like to have more fles flexibility with our relationship with russia after the election. these are the things that are producing the fruits of the evidence now. what e i want to focus on is wh can we do...

Power to exert and he's never said whether it's positive or negative. it's really to show the russian people that things and russia can be a player. >> it's uber simplifying hurt feelings and pride and maybe a little ego. how does one speak vladimir putin's language? i don't know if this wave of sanctions that the administration and state department of proposal will do it. what will? >> if you want to speak putin language, you trade. things that matter to putin. stopping any further nato enlargement and the missile defense program in europe. those are two things right at the top that matter mo...

There is a long list with the new start treaty that the administration signed and the senate ratified and the decision to cut way, way back on the national missile defense program. putin has been a masterful player and medvedev before him. for the past five years we have been asking. >> 48 hours from now the negotiations start with the nuclear program again. what do you expect? >> i expect iran will continue to breakthrough that it achieved in geneva last november. there was a thursday or friday "wall street journal" that the lifting of the sanctions have given a kick start to the icon me. all...