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But we've known that u.s. and north korean officials have talked before over things like hostages release, so you remember otto warmbier, the american student that died after being released from north korean custody, but to negotiate his release, american officials and north korean officials actually met in norway, so we know there's been direct communication in the past, but not about the missile issue. so when you take into consideration the kind of rhetoric that we've seen from pyongyang, the kind of rhetoric we've seen from president trump, how tense this situation has become, this is prob...

The nuclear deal. iran is complying with it but negotiate on stopping iran, funding terrorism -- >> can you really say iran is complying? can you really say iran is complying? >> they are complying. the pentagon says they are complying the agency complying on nuke deem everybody agrees missile issue is separate a u.s. resolution s they should comply we should push them to do that don't give up on nuclear deal we don't need nuclear iran and nuclear north korea out there. >> what is the response from u.s. then at this point what should it be toward north korea and toward iran? >> well -- towards...

Any of this is going to have an impact. i think you have to do it, right? i think you have to take these steps. i think you have to try. is it ultimately going to be successful? no. i want to say i'm really glad that you are focusing this important first block on this show on this issue because this is incredibly scary moment. we have had lots of sort of missile scares and tests with north korea. i think it's easy to feel like oh, this is just another thing. we have seen this in the past. nothing has actually happened. >> revenge is that what you are talking about. >> the missile tests and the...

Not even in the stadium. i know we have military forces doing all they can. a lot of frustration. i will tell you that the lack of leadership right now is hurting our reputation. and this missile issue you talked about with iran -- >> what should they have done? be specific. >> it is not just firing a missile -- >> at a u.s. warship. >> it is testing our resolve, testing our rules of engagement. looking at us and saying, we're kind of giving you the big middle finger and we're going to see what you're going to do about it. are you going to punch us in the nose? we could put a big red dot on th...

Saying about the president's candid moment, if you will? >> >> well, shep, it's not just the u.s. presidential campaign but russia's transition back to vladimir putin at the helm that makes it unlikely the two countries will resolve their differences over a european missile defense this year. of course, the white house would rather not be making any explanations at all. and probably means we will be kept a little farther from the leaders at the next opportunity. republicans say they will oppose any attempt to weaken the missile defense. many of them already objected to mr. obama's decision to ...