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And i guess that's the point, sir, because you understand the region well, you understand the military well. there are lots of things between now and war. >> yeah. and, you know, at the end of the day, what we try and do and national security issues is write down your political objective, and then try and understand the military means by which we'll achieve the political objective. what is our political objective. we want to get them back in a nuclear accord, we want to rethink, try and reduce our influence on terrorism throughout the middle east, try and reduce their missile testing systems, ...

National security issues is write down your political objective, and then try and understand the military means by which we'll achieve the political objective. what is our political objective. we want to get them back in a nuclear accord, we want to rethink, try and reduce our influence on terrorism throughout the middle east, try and reduce their missile testing systems, maybe that's a political objective, but it seems unlikely that a shooting war in the persian gulf is going to get us in that direction. by the way, we can't get their nuclear facilities using air power enabled power. >> becau...

Maritime units in particular. we can't keep the gulf open if the iranians wanted to stop it. we could never find all the missile batteries and the artillery, but we definitely, they've got something to lose out of a war also. we could go after their oil industry. >> yep. >> they've got a collapsing economy at the moment, and that has been. and i guess that's the point, sir, because you understand the region well, you understand the military well. there are lots of things between now and war. >> yeah. and, you know, at the end of the day, what we try and do and national security issues is write...