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>> kat: is more than just comments. the group that planned this trip has been very open about wanting to commit acts of terrorism against israel. i think there is such a double standard. could you imagine if a republican politician were taking a trip somewhere and it turned out the group planning it was a white nationalist organization? that wanted to commit terrorism against people of color? that would be wall-to-wall coverage on cnn and msnbc every single day. i cannot believe it's not a big deal. >> melissa: your point is well taken and the fact that their people inside israel who are jewis...

Industry. the people who are farmers. waking up tomorrow with less than they had today. we are sitting here in an air-conditioned studio. >> tom: is a long game. you can't -- >> jessica: give me a break. is that not true? you are a farmer and i didn't know? >> rachel: there is not a manufacturing boom thanks to donald trump. thanks to president trump. yes, people who are in -- >> jessica: michigan. >> melissa: you have to separate the whole thing. if you talk to people who have dealt with china for long time, whether it's talking about the fact that somebody did need to stand up to china in te...

Right. >> kat: what if a professor came out it says he's part of the far right organization can make you think the reaction would be different? >> melissa: i do, but a lot of times when people are defending antifa they talk about the fact that it's a reaction to the whites of primacy everything else that is going on in this country. our minister made an interesting point recently, that the most effective resistance movement in this country was martin luther king. that came from inside a church, and from a place of peace. and that's why it was so different. to pray for and love your enemy as op...

By illegal aliens. >> kat: and there are many violent crimes committed by american citizens, as well. >> tom: that is the wrong answer on the wrong question. i disagree with that statement. it isn't how many -- it isn't who commits more crimes. it's that every crime committed by illegal aliens, it's preventable crime. if we had border security, no sanctuary cities, awol, if we let president trump secure this border, how many crimes can we prevent? >> kat: i'm all about securing the border. however, i don't think it's fair to demonize an entire group of people as being violent and dangerous wit...

And have their marxist, radical, antifa professor. but they should see some conservative free-market. and they should have some that are nonpolitical. we have more balance in our education system, so our kids are coming out educated and not indoctrinated. >> kat: tom, what are your thoughts? >> tom: when it comes to antifa, i think it's domestic terrorism on many fronts. if you look at the definition of terrorism, it uses intimidation and violence to political and spear that's executive but they do. i think they are cowards and that's where they wear masks. if he truly believed what they stand...