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There to effect regime change, we're not in there to change beyond or mission scope. we are only to make a point about chemical weapons. again, that's an interesting line to draw, it's a hard line sometimes to draw, both geopolitical and perhaps morally, but that's where she's standing now and that's effectively is where president trump is standing. >> you were talking about the dewithin the white house about what to do in syria, and the report is that the president was advocating for a larger strike, secretary matt is talked him out of that. i think a lot of people have said secretary matt is...

The bravery of the navy s.e.a.l.s who carried out the raid on bin laden. how significant is it that we're hearing from the first lady on issues that are outside of a first lady's traditional role? >> well, i don't think it's actually unusual because this first lady has a great love and passion for our military families. so it doesn't come as a surprise to me that she would praise the navy s.e.a.l.s, who are of course part of our military, and i assume they have families. they do a great job for us. they're often unseen and unheard because of the type of mission scope that they have. so i think...