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it's humiliating. >> you think that's what her silence is? you think her silence is saying that? >> i think so, andcass canceling the davos trip on their 13th wedding anniversary, the inauguration tweet where she's with a marine and not her husband, i think all these things add up. not moving to the white house immediately was unpress departmented. five mows after he moved in, she monthed in. then of course the fact that they have separate bedrooms. they're the first presidential couple since the kennedys to sleep in separate bedrooms in the white house. i think it says a lot. >> it often takes first ladies a while to figure out what kind of initiatives they want to have. i think michelle obama, it took her quite a while to figure out exactly what she wanted to do. is it possible that melania trump is simply in that phase right now? >> i don't think so. i mean they have far fewer staff than michelle obama had. it did take her about a year, you know, to come up with the let's move campaign, which was michelle obama's signature issue in the white house. but i don't think that melania
but she doesn't like being in washington. she doesn't like politicians. i think she feels like her personality, her honesty and frankness is just ill fitted to being a kind of smooth-talking politician. maybe just like barack obama is. >> so kate, you study first ladies. how will michelle obama be remembered? >> well, i would add to what abby's point. i thought it was remarkable she went to bed before the election results were out. that says a lot about michelle obama. i think she was steeling herself to the results, but she went to bed before she found out what was happening on election night. i think she'll be remembered as a very traditional first lady. she did a lot of good with the let's move campaign, shining a spotlight on military families. as the first african-american first lady, you know, it's truly remarkable. she was a role model to so many, you know, young girls in this country who had never seen somebody in that position who was african-american.
with his freedom loving partners to eradicate terrorism across the globe. in case the flurry of statements was not enough, he also took to his favored medium twitter to continue to express his concern about these terror attacks. he invoked not just what happened in turkey as well as in berlin, but he also pointed to an attack in switzerland where a gunman opened fire on a mosque there. he said today there were terror attacks in turkey, switzerland, and germany, and it is only getting worse. the civilized world must change thinking. so chris, it tells you that even though donald trump is the president-elect, even though he's heading to the white house, clearly not adopting this sort of dose of caution about whether to get ahead of investigators and immediately label these attacks by radical islamic terrorism. we saw him do this throughout the campaign. clear he's going to do it throughout the transition as well. >> sara, thank you very much for all that reporting. let's discuss it with our panel. we have matt lewis. "washington post" reporter abby
for you. this is the moment where first lady michelle obama explains what motivated her to speak so candidly against donald trump during the campaign. basically, it's the "access hollywood" hot mike moment where he was caught talking about forcing himself on women. so listen to this. >> a candidate for the presidency speaking in such terms about women, as i said, was not a normal thing. so my response, you know, in light of what i was seeing from my female staff, what i was hearing from my daughters, their reaction to it, for me required a different kind of response. you can't just stand before people and just give a regular political speech. >> kate, when about that? she sort of broke ranks with previous first ladies to give a more forceful speech. >> well, i thought it was really interesting. we remember back when she did "the late show" after melania
it's still at the forefront of her mind. i think there's a distinction. she's made this distinction between the transition in the white house, the bush white house to the obama white house, and the transition in washington, which i think we can still assume for donald trump is going to be fairly contentious and kind of acrimonious. but i think she's trying to signal to folks who will listen to her that it's important to not do what they did in 2008 and 2009 going into the obama administration, to not follow the republican example for how to deal with an incoming president. for the democrats who are willing to listen, that's an important message. they're trying to decide what kind of tact do we take towards donald trump? how do we deal with this man who during the campaign we argued was unfit for the presidency? and she's making it clear where she stands on that. >> kate, i want to play another portion of this oprah interview
water. the challenge is part of the first lady's let's move campaign. i think i'm allowed to say this in cable, she's bad -- >> wow. i think so too. those are some moves. >> respect? >> yeah do you do those? do you jump on the bench? >> i respect everything she's doing trying to get people to move more. and be into fitness. the country needs it badly. >> what about the moves? >> she's obviously very strong and works out. >> do you do those moves? >> i don't do most of those moves. i'm big in resistance i believe in weights but as long as you're doing anything you're good and she looks strong and fit. and that's a good image to have. inside politics speaking of strong and fit, not john king gloria borger will lead the way. >> i don't get people to move. i get people to talk. okay. that's all i get people to do. we got a lot to talk about today, chris. largely involving hillary clinton who finally spoke herself. she's been on the campaign trail for 28 days. she finally spoke to reporters.
this transparency questions are going to follow her throughout the rest of the campaign. alisyn. >> and reporters will follow her as well trying to ask those. jeff thanks so much for that. well there's an uneasy calm in waco texas this morning. just days after that brawl between rival biker gangs left nine people dead. at least 170 are in custody. the ft. worth star telegram reporting one of the gangs, the cossacks has agreed to a police request to cancel their annual rally this coming weekend. and that would have brought as many as 400 more bikers to the area. more tension in the waters off yemen. an iranian ship is threatening to dock there in yemen before being inspected as required by the u.n. it is believed that the ship is carrying humanitarian relief. no intelligence suggests that weapons are aboard. but the u.s. does not want the iranians to break a saudi-led naval blockade. the u.s. is said to be in backchannel communications to get iran to comply with u.n.
are we going to light our hair on fire every time there's a setback in the campaign against isil? >> we know that hope is not a strategy. the president's plan isn't working. >> all right. well that's the debate raging in washington over the u.s. strategy on fighting isis after the fall of ramadi. is the strategy working or not? let's turn to phillip mudd former cia counterterrorism official. good to see you. >> good morning. >> is the strategy against isis working or failing? >> i don't think we can say it's working. we just lost ramadi. remember last summer and last fall we were talking about the rapid advances of isis. those advances have slowed. the government's had i would say modest success. remember they took tikrit the kurds have had some success. i think though we're missing a basic question here. there are conversation we can have around the margins, whether we have an independent avenue of
>> he's been here a long time. he's set a standard and he's getting to go out the way he wants. >> and the reports are he's really tried to avoid the sentimentality of this. >> too bad. >> his guests keep injecting it. >> but only three like it could have been like a year-long good-bye. >> yeah. i can't wait to watch tonight. >> me too. well it's past our bedtime. >> i'm going to tape it. meanwhile after the fall of ramadi president obama's strategy coming under fire. what can the u.s. do to stop the terrorist advance in iraq? >> and a new report is raising more questions about hillary clinton's transparency. what does it mean for her campaign? we'll tell you the report and dig, dig, dig on inside politics. i've smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now i use this. the nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq. if you haven't heard about the latest sale at hotels.com, then you haven't see n this commercial.
see them released as soon as possible. of course this state department is now saying that they may need until january. she actually said that's not soon enough. let's take a listen. >> i have said repeatedly i want those e-mails out. nobody has a bigger interest in getting them released than i do. i respect the state department. they have their process that they do for everybody not just for me. but anything that they might do to expedite that process i heartily support. >> and one of the reasons of course she heartily supports it is because this issue is going to follow her throughout the campaign. but it's important to keep in mind here that her staff and she hand picked all these e-mails that will be released here. so she would like to get this out of the way, not likely to happen. and a new report in "the wall street journal" this morning raises even more questins about the transparency at her state department. the report says that some of her top aides were actually slow walking the release of some other public records requests. so that's one more example that