but she doesn't like being in washington. she doesn't like politicians. i think she feels like her personality, her honesty and frankness is just ill fitted to being a kind of smooth-talking politician. maybe just like barack obama is. >> so kate, you study first ladies. how will michelle obama be remembered? >> well, i would add to what abby's point. i thought it was remarkable she went to bed before the election results were out. that says a lot about michelle obama. i think she was steeling herself to the results, but she went to bed before she found out what was happening on election night. i think she'll be remembered as a very traditional first lady. she did a lot of good with the let's move campaign, shining a spotlight on military families. as the first african-american first lady, you know, it's truly remarkable. she was a role model to so many, you know, young girls in this country who had never seen somebody in that position who was african-american.