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>> in fact, circumvention appears over and over again in the penal code, the criminal code, as something you should not do. >> right, exactly, you don't say, hey, mom and dad, i'm going to go out and circumvent some laws today. then he goes on to say, that circumvention should not and cannot be condemned or restricted. instead, it should be recognized as promoting political speech and activity that is engrained in our culture. so you have this wonderful full circleness. you have money pouring into the political and ideological system that has produced, helped to aid and facilitate a supreme co...

>> you could really argue that charles koch's original passion in politics was the war of ideas. >> right. >> and in a recent story i did, i found a speech he wrote where he said, the most important thing we should do as businessmen is not get involved in politics, it backfires. we should create a cadre of well-funded proponents of the free market of capitalism, in the researching institutes, in the lobbying industry, and over the years since over the last 40 years, they have poured tens of millions of dollars into those efforts very effectively. >> and they've been particularly focused, and p...

Spending money directly on candidates, there's this entire iceberg beneath the water that they've been building for decades to influence all kinds of americans. >> you could really argue that charles koch's original passion in politics was the war of ideas. >> right. >> and in a recent story i did, i found a speech he wrote where he said, the most important thing we should do as businessmen is not get involved in politics, it backfires. we should create a cadre of well-funded proponents of the free market of capitalism, in the researching institutes, in the lobbying industry, and over the year...

Into. and he says, the plaintiffs have found a way to circumvent campaign finance laws. stop for a second. normally, any legal authority using the word "circumvent" about law is saying you're doing the wrong thing. >> in fact, circumvention appears over and over again in the penal code, the criminal code, as something you should not do. >> right, exactly, you don't say, hey, mom and dad, i'm going to go out and circumvent some laws today. then he goes on to say, that circumvention should not and cannot be condemned or restricted. instead, it should be recognized as promoting political speech a...

>> the odor of alcoholic beverage was very prevalent in the courtroom and on him, so i knew that he had had a lot to drink. >> take a deep breath. just blow in it. >> okay. for the record your blood alcohol is .075. >> i admit that i did have drinks last night. i lost my grandmother about two weeks ago, and i've been under a lot of pressure. >> the drunk driving limit in nevada is .08, and it's been ten hours since he says he had his last drink. caramagno still insists he can move forward with the case. but the judge has had enough. >> my only desire at this point is to protect mr. jakuchunas....