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Add here. they said their systems are secure. so do you think security systems overall can keep up with malicious mall ware? >> i think a lot of security researchers would say no. one of the issues that we're releasing with this is that attackers can go after things over and over and over again. and they only need to succeed once for things to be successfully breached. it's a really asymmetrical kind of warfare if you will in the digital space. >> okay. andrea petterson from "the washington post" thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> how could it happen? the fallout from t...