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We secureborder. walls work. they work as a mitigating factor from someone moving from point a to point b. they work as a funneling option as well. these things work. this is commonsense. we all agreed on it until it got political. >> dana: one of the reasons in these polls, the monmoth poll asked how important is it that it has money for the border wall? 47% say very or somewhat important. 43%, 50% say not important at all. so it almost mirrors the polarization in the country. >> it's become a very polarizing, political issue, again, more than a policy issue. everybody has become an expert on...

Saying that certain things are okay, it creating a standard, which is now super low, for people's behavior on all sides. >> remember what was said during the debate abouts racists that -- do you feel as if that sentiment is the same for the president? >> i think that i have never felt in my time this level of polarization of the country and race relations in and of themselves. polls show 60% in a quinnipiac poll, 60% of americans disapprove how trump is handling race relations. >> at the two year mark. two years left, first term in the trump presidency. what do you give him race relations as a...

But -- >> 400 people 400,000 people ce border, just because somebody can put forth a ton of resources to may be digging under it or use special equipment and really special training to try to get over a large wall the way this is, just because that is possible and because some good may be due it doesn't mean it is not an enormous mitigating factor for the vast majority of people. the solution isn't just have nothing so they can easily walk across. that is not a solution at all. i was the last saying it because it sounds crazy, and of course we would have to have something there to mitigate it,...

Possible ways to challenge them. >> we have 400,000 people crossing the border that are apprehended every year so the idea is to mitigate this to the best extent possible. because somebody can dig under it or use special equipment to try to get over a large wall the way this is. just because that is possible and some could do it doesn't mean it is not a normal mitigating factor for the vast majority of people. having a solution is not nothing so people can walk across. it sounds crazy. of course we would have to have something to mitigate as the sheriff is saying. without any evidence or reaso...

Mr. cohen's moment in the sun is pretty much over. >> harris: unfortunate for mr. cohen, right? because it's a mitigating factor, if you can come up with something to give miller's investigation, i would think, for his prison sentence of three years. how does that work customer key reports on march 6th. what's in it for him? >> i think he's on a public campaign self-aggrandizement to her right now. because the fighting is over. he has had his sentencing. at the sentencing, the district of new york, the southern district, made it very clear that he was a field cooperator. he did not provide all...