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We had that montage there, you have used the word, you may have changed your mind about using i it. >> i never changed my mind about the utility of physical barriers, that has never been the issue from a peer to two years ago all we were hearing was we were going to build a wall and the inference was that it would be all too thousand miles of the border, but that is simply not feasible. to simply build a wall and walk away from it would be a medieval solution to what is a very complex and dynamic problem. over the last few years, the president has evolved to situation greatly. he talked about ...

But -- >> 400 people 400,000 people ce border, just because somebody can put forth a ton of resources to may be digging under it or use special equipment and really special training to try to get over a large wall the way this is, just because that is possible and because some good may be due it doesn't mean it is not an enormous mitigating factor for the vast majority of people. the solution isn't just have nothing so they can easily walk across. that is not a solution at all. i was the last saying it because it sounds crazy, and of course we would have to have something there to mitigate it,...

And medieval solutions, the point is that it has been around for a long time because these things do actually work and they are part of the solution. not the only solution, but part of it. >> shannon: the white house had looked at $13.9 billion in funding approved by congress as part of a disaster response bill for funding the wall. my understanding is you have had some conversations about that because there have been objections about that possibility. >> of course, i am from houston and harvey relief funds are a big priority of mine. we couldn't possibly support money being taken away from th...

Physical barriers do work, they have always worked. we have barriers in my county, they have great efficacy. of course, we are always going to have any physical barrier backed up with technology and human resources, because the drug cartels have infinite resources. they are entrepreneurs, as we plug one hall they will try another, so they will always try to defeat whatever we place there, so they will always have to be backed up by technology and human resources. we will have to move human resources closer to the border. it's a flawed argument and i would invite the democrats to quit using the...

Sheriff who coined the term "medieval solution," a phrase a lot of democrats are using to describe the wall. president trump's border wall makes sense to him. welcome to "fox news @ night," i am shannon bream in washington. we begin tonight with correspondent kristin fisher. she is following the latest on the partial government shutdown from the white house. good evening. >> we are now 59 minutes away from this becoming the longest shutdown in the history of the united states. both the house and senate have already adjourned, so that discouraging milestone is going to be met and it is happenin...